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Ginger hate :(
I'm posting this as a single suck, because I feel it's too serious to go into a collective group of sucks, and prejudice, in ANY shape or form, is very wrong!

I served a woman yesterday, with quite a large transaction. As I was scanning the first few items her husband looked at me, looked at her and said, “I’m going to have to stand outside”, then he gave me a final filthy look and walked outside. I was a bit put off by this. He looked quite disgusted by me. Anyway, I scanned the ladies stuff. As I was nearing the end, the man came back in and stood by the side of the till next to mine.

She handed me some notes. I checked them all, like I check EVERY note from EVERY customer who hands me one.

He yelled to his wife. “You want to check the notes she gave you, make sure they aren’t fake too! You can never trust gingers.”

I was taken-aback. I remained calm and asked him if there was a problem.

“Yeah, your hair’s disgusting.”

(Not "I don't like the fact you had to check my wife's notes" or something else customer-service related, oh no! My hair was the main problem, obviously!)

His wife smirked at me. He smirked at me as they were both leaving the shop and as he was doing so he put a hand up and said “See ya Ginger!” I whirled around on the spot as they were exiting the shop and yelled, “Excuse me?! How dare you!”

Maybe I shouldn’t have said that. But I was so angry! I mean… really. It was obvious from the get-go that he took a dislike to me because I’m ginger and he was hell-bent on finding something that I’d done to complain about. I’m sure that had one of the other ‘normal-haired’ cashiers served him he wouldn’t have had a problem with the notes. Not 100% sure on it, but that’s the feeling I’m getting.

People laugh at me or tell me I’m being paranoid when I tell them that yes, ginger haired people face prejudice too. This is why I can firmly say that yes, it exists, and it’s always going to exist.

Oh! And the real kicker! This couple weren’t young. They were well into their forty’s. And while technically the woman didn’t say anything, it was obvious that she approved of her husband’s actions.

Good news. My line of customers were saying some nasty things about his personality and lovely things to me when he left. I know I get a lot of sucks but it's so nice to have customers on my side for once! They made me feel a lot better!

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For the record, I love red-heads.


2013-03-23 01:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

They honestly make me smile if I see one in a day. Prejudice against the Irish in my country, America, is a distant memory, but was once dominant to the point of forbidding them to enter establishments and denying them employment.

Secondly, a while back, they did a radio show on NPR about bullying (this was at the very onset of the topic coming into such prominent light) and opened it up to random callers. In sum total, multiple people who were bullied were red heads of THREE different generations. I was shocked. STILL?!

It just goes to show how ingrained in prejudice/fear humanity is against that which is different. That no matter how similar we may be, this aspect of difference will still get the focus.

Lastly, I will state, that genetically speaking, there is no real "advantage" to being a red head (point of fact, sensitivity to light being quite inhibiting -- furthermore it is a recessive trait), scientists state therefore that the reason they persist against evolution is simply: People find them beautiful. And so the gene continues. After all, I too, am part Irish.

Edited at 2013-03-23 01:06 pm (UTC)

Re: For the record, I love red-heads.


2013-03-23 01:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Aww, this post made me smile :) Red hair is beautiful, I agree, and I hope I have at least one child with my hair colouring in the future.

It doesn't happen a lot to me, but more times than you'd think. Total strangers have called me names. One woman months back called me a ginger cow as I walked past her. Teenagers have hurled abuse at me, but I can kind of take it because they're teenagers. But when adults do it? It's just horrible and shocking.

Lets hope the gene continues for hundreds more years :)

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2013-03-23 01:19 pm (UTC) (Link)

I don't understand the ginger hate. Red hair is GORGEOUS.

That man is an idiot. Seriously, hating on people based on the colour of their hair??? How much more idiotic and shallow can he get?

You rock that colour and don't let the asses bother you too much.


2013-03-23 01:20 pm (UTC) (Link)


And people wonder why I never leave my hair my natural color.

Redheads are AWESOME.

(And old icon of mine, inactive ATM because I'm too cheap to pay LJ anymore when they don't give a damn about our complaints!)


2013-03-23 01:27 pm (UTC) (Link)

Aww, that IS really cute!


2013-03-23 01:24 pm (UTC) (Link)

That is truly horrible. It's bizarre to me that this prejudice still exists. I LOVE red hair and after my first child dyed my hair but let it go soon after since I don't have the coloring for it.


2013-03-23 01:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

I just don't understand it. It's just a hair colour. I used to dye my hair a lot (I've had it bright red, dark purple, pink, black x2, golden brown, dark brown, burgundy, and many other shades) just because I couldn't stand people looking down their nose at me or calling me names or treating me differently just because I have red hair.

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2013-03-23 01:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

Whenever I hear stories like that, I wonder why it is that some people in this day look down on gingers.

Me, I think red hair is beautiful, especially if she also has green eyes. And freckles, those are cute.

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2013-03-24 12:48 am (UTC) (Link)

Speaking as an artist, you should post a link to the creator of the artwork, or at least name them. If you weren't sure, that's not a photo.

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2013-03-23 01:43 pm (UTC) (Link)

I DYE my hair red. I had red hair when I was a baby. Fuzzy, frizzy red hair. But sadly it turned color and turned brown and fine and straight. WTF. I'd love for that back. Why why did it go away?! So, grrr.

So, yeah, I dye it read. Like dark red. LOVE it. I'm so envious of people with natural red hair. I just think having red hair makes you special. Unique. When I wasn't dying it the unnatural red and more the natural red everyone thought it was natural even though my eyebrows were black. Heh. I loved it.

Anwho, I'm so sorry this happened to you! WTF! It's like eye color! Skin color! Nothing you can change and nothing bad!


2013-03-26 03:29 am (UTC) (Link)

I was born with red hair too! And then two weeks later it all fell out and grew in dirty blonde. Then in high school, it grew to a lovely hazelnut color.

Hair is a strange thing.


2013-03-23 01:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

Another dye my hair red person. I was a strawberry blond as a kid and then my hair turned brown. Very boring brown. I tried blond, but I really do have the coloring for red hair. (And apparently I had a great-great grandfather who was a red head with blue eyes like me)

So I do. Mine is a quiet copper red, so people rarely realize its not my natural color. Never been subject to any abuse due to it - could it be more of an issue in Britain?


2013-03-23 02:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

Yeah, it's a Britain thing. I don't know why really.

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2013-03-23 02:19 pm (UTC) (Link)

I really don't understand this prejudice either. My husband and I are both of Irish descent and we both have undertones of red in our hair (and his beard is totally red when it grows in) and we were praying that our little girl would come out with red hair. It's more blondish-brown at this point, but she's only 2.5 months old, so it could still happen. I'd give anything for beautiful red hair!


2013-03-23 02:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

I also due my hair red and don't understand the hate. Seems ridiculous to me.


2013-03-23 02:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

I don't understand the prejudice. I love red hair. I used to dye mine red. I gave up because my hair won't hold color for long and when it takes two boxes of dye to dye your hair that gets expensive fast.


2013-03-23 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

I've heard from various hairdressers that red dye tends to not want to "hold" very long, even if you get it professionally done. I dye my hair red when I have the money, but even then I can only afford the cheap stuff so I'm lucky if it lasts six months. My father's a natural redhead with green eyes and pale skin, and I inherited his coloring, but I had a lot of brain surgery when I was young so they had to shave me bald and when it grew back it was a different color, a mousy dishwater blonde. I wish I was a natural redhead like my father!

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2013-03-23 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Obligatory awesome-person-who-is-also-ginger icon post (me, I have boring brown hair). Hate for hair? I don't get it...

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2013-03-23 02:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Ugh. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, and you are so right that prejudice in any form is disgusting and wrong. I will never understand the hate gingers get in some countries. It's one of the most pointless and stupid things I had ever heard in my life. I love red hair and like others here I dye my hair to be more red! You rock that color and the hell with the haters. The world needs more gingers because at the rate we are going there won't be any natural ones left in the world and that's just sad. :(

I hope that guy and his wife step on a Lego.


2013-03-23 02:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

I've never even gotten anything but love for my red hair :c I can't fathom an outpouring of hate.... Or my ability to not just snap back.


2013-03-23 02:51 pm (UTC) (Link)

I'm reminded of the postboards at Toss a pic of a pretty red-headed woman at them and it's like every holiday rolled into one glorious ginger-fest. They WORSHIP redheads. *lol* It's very fun. Alas, I am not a natural red-head. *pout* It has some reddish undertones you can see in full sunlight, but... not enough to turn heads.

So... what percentage of the haters are actually burning with ginger envy? :3 Sorry you have to put up with anti-ginger assholes.


2013-03-23 03:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

Reba McEntire, Jean Grey, Rogue, Scarlett, and Caitlin O'Shannessy. That boil on the arse of humanity can take his hate and shove it.

I dyed my hair what I called to my friends "Reba McEntire, Jean Grey flame red," once, and the way my mother reacted, you'd think I'd murdered all the kittens.


2013-03-23 03:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

I do not get the ginger hate. Yesterday I saw two ginger men with beards and their hotness seriously made my day.


2013-03-23 03:10 pm (UTC) (Link)

:: blinks ::

Okay, forgive the American ignorance, but *why* are they prejudice against red-hair? That seems really weird and arbitrary, like not trusting people with hazel eyes. Is it rooted in a cultural thing? (I know that red-hair has been traditionally associated with the Irish).

:: uses icon of her favorite red-head ::


2013-03-23 04:47 pm (UTC) (Link)

The English controlled Ireland for a long time. They've always (not everyone, of course, but many) felt that the Irish were "beneath" them. My MIL was born in Ireland and raised in England, and she told me that when she got a job at Harrod's (the big department store in London), your position in the store depended on the kind of accent you had. If you had a more "Home Countries" accent, you'd be selling jewelry, perfume, fine menswear, that sort of thing. If you had a Cockney accent or a thick Irish brogue, you'd be selling shoes and housewares. My MIL also told me that when she was in elementary school, the children were trained to speak a certain way, and if they sounded "too Irish" they were punished. She's almost 85, so that was a long time ago, but still. Since red hair is traditionally associated with the Irish, depending on how strong one's nationalistic pride is, that's where the prejudice comes from.

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2013-03-23 03:23 pm (UTC) (Link)

For the record, i thought that this stuff was only on South Park. i didn't know there was *serious* prejudice against gingers. What the hell?!?!??!


2013-03-24 06:15 am (UTC) (Link)

I thought so too. I'm quite baffled.

I have a redhaired cousin (and she just had an adorable chubby redhaired baby boy over the summer) and I've never heard her say anything about getting bothered about it... maybe it depends on what part of the country you're in?


2013-03-23 03:34 pm (UTC) (Link)

As a fellow redhead, shit like this pisses me off to no end. What an ignorant, prejudiced wanker. You're absolutely right about the hate redheads get on a daily basis, there's unfortunately a lot of it in the UK and I think you were right to speak up for yourself. *hugs*


2013-03-23 03:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

In the UK, 'ginger' isn't just red hair.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic This is red hair.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic This is ginger hair.

Just wanted to clarify, as some people seem to think it's anyone with red hair. It's a particular shade.


2013-03-23 06:52 pm (UTC) (Link)

I was thinking that there was this difference in shades, but I also believe that many prejudiced people use ginger to lump together all red hues. Wither way, morons will be morons. :-( I had a ginger haired, calm russian boy in school, and he was so cute. He was getting mobbed by a lot of other students, though, it was sad and enraging, and I've more than once nearly gotten into a fight about it. They never mentioned his hair colour, though, and the insults were usually aimed at other (not visible) physical features...


2013-03-23 03:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

Fellow ginge here. I've hardly had any shit about it since leaving high school tbh, that's how juvenile it is.

I always call people out on it now, simply because I find it so ridiculous. There was one occasion when some kid's dad called me a ginger idiot or something silly like that, to which I honesty just laughed, looked at him like he was ridiculous and replied "Are you twelve? Grow up."

I'll ask someone to please explain why having red hair makes me "disgusting" or whatever. Usually they stammer and get embarrassed. It's always fun when I'm with my dad, who's from a pretty rough part of Glasgow. Seriously, if you wanna see a "hard" man turn white as a sheet and run away, insult a Glaswegian's daughter about something which is a direct result of her Scottish heritage. I double dare you. (he's managed to intimidate Piers Morgan and make him back down before, so yeah, he can be pretty scary).


2013-03-23 04:03 pm (UTC) (Link)

Generally speaking though, I get way more praise about my hair than abuse. Wayyyy more people go out of their way to tell me they love my hair. I don't blame them tbh it's fierce as fuck. /ginger pride

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2013-03-23 04:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

A nice suggestion, as a fellow red-head, the answer is ginger is a spice not a color


2013-03-23 04:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

I don't get this at all, by which I mean how can anyone be so nasty to someone-- a stranger at that-- over their hair color? Good lord, who the hell cares?!

My girlfriend I suppose could be classified as 'ginger'(based on the photos posted above by someone else), though everyone just considers her a redhead. She has mentioned this sort of bias before, though I can't recall a time that anyone has said anything negative to her(in the time I've been with her, I mean). Actually, she gets hit on because of it, and I've been told how 'lucky' I am to "be with a ginger". I've also seen someone else say how "unobtainable" redheads/gingers are because they're so desirable, or something along those lines.

I think her hair is pretty, it's long and has natural highlights and all that. It's not why I'm with her though, nor would I discriminate against someone with red hair. Or blonde hair. Or brown hair. Or any color hair. That's ridiculous.

I'm sorry this happened to you, people are horrible.


2013-03-23 05:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

There must be some cultural element to dislike of gingers (I would call the example presented as 'red' 'auburn', ie a red-tone morph of brown, btw, not red.) I don't LIKE red hair that's distinctly red/gingery, but I also hate middy browns and dishwater blondes (I tend to find aesthetically pleasing VERY dark brown/black on pale skin and very gold blonde or extreme cornsilk blonde, or with men very dark hair/pale skin/eyes, dark blond hair and pale/medium skin-yeah, "GoldenEye" was my favorite Bond movie, why do you ask?) It's an aesthetic issue, not a...moral-judgement issue! I would assume statistically most crime is committed by people with dark hair just because that's the dominant color gene, therefore there are more dark-haired people, but that's hardly a way of narrowing down potential fraud....why gingers? I have HEARD people make jokes (I assume they were) about gingers, but I figured it was just some sort of cultural thing I wasn't getting. If I'd been behind those people in line I would have assumed they were high or something.


2013-03-24 12:29 am (UTC) (Link)

As mentioned above, red hair is stereotypically Irish and Scottish, and England does not have a good history with either nation, so it's mostly a Brit thing. (On behalf of my English heritage, I apologise.)


2013-03-23 05:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

It's assholes like that which makes the assistant manager at work so paranoid about having ginger hair she dyes it any other colour and gets panicky when her roots show (people made her life a misery at school for being ginger and it stuck with her).

*hugs* Sorry this happened, they were really immature adults.

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