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The annoying thing is, I'm not even getting paid to work there.
Greetings! First time poster.

I do a regular weekly shift at a charity store I won't name, whose organisation's initials are SA and is famous for its brass bands, if you follow me. Anyway, onward.

I'm working on the register last Saturday when a harmless-looking old woman comes up to pay for something - a religious book, as it happens. Not my kink, but to each their own. She asks me if I've ever read anything by the book's author - no I haven't, I reply. She asks me if I've heard of the guy that's written the foreword - again, no I haven't. She gushes about the book's author and the guy that wrote the foreword for a minute or two, and I smile and nod. We do get customers that will have (usually short) conversations with staff. That isn't the suck.

No, the suck is that instead of having a short conversation and leaving it at that, the lady then proceeds to door-stop me - i.e., what felt like 30 minutes of proselytizing. Have I accepted Jesus, state of my soul, etc., etc. A couple of things she said I very nearly responded to, like when she said something about the state of a person's soul being the most important issue, but didn't, because hey, this is a charity store, and that wouldn't be charitable.

But she just. Kept. Going. This lady had come into the store, bought one 50-cent book, got a free plastic bag into the bargain - and somehow this means she can take the next however long to try and convert whatever staff she comes into contact with. Finally, she left, leaving me with a seriously raised blood pressure level. Half an hour later, she came back - only this time I was in the back, looked out, saw her, and stayed in the back.

(According to the manager, this lady has been in before, and is a Jehovah's Witness. Again, not my kink, and if she's happy with that, great - so long as I don't have to be involved. But you have to really wonder at the lack of consideration of a person that not only a) won't stop trying to convert someone when their entire body language is screaming 'GO AWAY PLSTHX' and b) goes into a store run by another Christian denomination to do it.)

Thankfully, a customer this annoying is a rare commodity. If I see this woman, again, however...I'm on break. Don't care if she sticks around 'till Doomsday, I'm on break.

Thanks for listening, and I hope I passed that audition! :)

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[info]insomniacartist

2009-10-04 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

I get this at work too. :( ALL. THE. TIME. And I work at a grocery store...

I'MMA RINGIN UP YER FOOD, WAITIN FER CONVERSION. Apparently. I'm an atheist, and I'm perfectly fine with religions and such. To each his own, you know? But this is solicitation at this point, and in many stores, this is ILLEGAL. Trying to push your religion onto me while I'm RINGING UP YOUR GROCERIES is, in my opinion, beyond messed up. If anything, that's going to annoy a person, and convince him to NOT join your religion. D:

I actually had one of these people tell me that I'm going to Hell once. Yeah, that TOTALLY makes me want to convert. So I can turn into someone that will blindly say "ZOMG YER GOIN TO HELL!!!!11191932!"

:(

These are the people that make everyone else look bad, and it's such a shame for the good religious people that just want to spread the word and make people feel loved. ARGH!

[info]alacarta_renata

2009-10-05 12:49 am (UTC) (Link)

Religion pusher: "You're going to hell!"
You: "Your total comes to $6.66. Ooh, I hope that's not an omen..."

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[info]anonymous_troll

2009-10-04 06:49 pm (UTC) (Link)

So, I'm going to bet it's not your kink?

LOL. j/k yeah that is annoying.

[info]jewcifer

2009-10-04 07:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

I got a lot of this sort of thing at various jobs - I even had a woman DEMAND to talk to our general manager because I don't celebrate Christmas. (We were instructed to say "Happy Holidays" to people, and she snapped NO IT'S MERRY CHRISTMAS and then asked me why I was working on a holiday and not "sitting at home with my family having a Christmas ham." Yyyyyyeah.)

[info]tonko_ni

2009-10-04 07:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

If that lady thought you and all people should be home eating ham, what was she doing at the store?!

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[info]julietvalcouer

2009-10-04 07:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

Well, in fairness, JWs kind of HAVE to proselytize, it goes with their territory. Just tell them you have a cousin's uncle's roommate's friend who's a JW and you can get a Watchtower whenever you want and they live very far away so no, customer probably doesn't know them. (It works for me, though I stop after "cousin" and it's true.)

I would love to have someone come at me, though,s o I could go off on them about non-Catholics being heretics.

[info]kimerastorm

2009-10-04 08:11 pm (UTC) (Link)

"Or just say brother (sister)", in a soft voice, "you are preaching to the choir." Then leave it lie. Most of the time they figure you are a JW yourself and then leave you alone.

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[info]write_light

2009-10-04 08:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

Is it rude to say to Customer Lady, "Thanks but I have my beliefs. I can't discuss it any more"?

[info]misaoshinomori

2009-10-04 08:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

unfortunately the moment you say that, they go into a worse tirade =(

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How very silly.

[info]dr_rieux

2009-10-04 08:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

You are unhappy because you were proselytized while working at a Salvation Army store?

You do know what "Salvation" means, don't you?


This post is analogous to someone taking a job at McDonald's and then getting offended because a customer walked up and tried to buy a hamburger. The nerve! A hamburger at McDonald's!

It appears Ms. Proselytizer simply understands the store you volunteer in a bit better than you do. Her behavior was perfectly understandable and appropriate in context.

Which is to say, the reason the Salvation Army exists is to treat all of us the way that woman treated you. If you find that offensive, it might make sense for you to volunteer for a secular charity whose purpose is to help earthly people rather than to seek "salvation."

The Salvation Army, an international movement, is an evangelical part of the universal Christian Church. Its message is based on the Bible. Its ministry is motivated by the love of God. Its mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ and to meet human needs in His name without discrimination.

- the Mission Statement of the Salvation Army

Re: How very silly.

[info]sweill

2009-10-04 09:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

Dude.
Did you really tell her she asked for it?
'cause that's what it sounded like.

And your analogy is inaccurate.
It would be more like your sucky customer coming into your McDonalds, talking about fast food preferences and then spending the next however long rhapsodizing about the merits of Chik-fil-a.

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[info]alkahestapeiron

2009-10-04 08:41 pm (UTC) (Link)

My friends and father have found out (the hard way) that the only thing that gets rid of a Jehovah's Witness is flipping out on them. :(

[info]sweill

2009-10-04 09:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

Did kinda did that.
Told one who just wouldn't STOP and just kept bugging me (near Easter)...
"I'm Jewish. We killed him. Have a nice day."

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[info]lilyofthemist

2009-10-04 09:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

Your icon is mesmerizing! I love it!

[info]lady_nebula

2009-10-04 09:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

I found out very young that the best way to get rid of a Jehovah's Witness was to tell them my father was a Protestant minister, and gee, would they like to discuss religion with him? As a Protestant, I was still going to Hell of course, but at least they figured it was pointless to argue with me. And they never took me up on my offer to talk theology with my Dad. Hmm.

[info]blackpuddle

2009-10-05 01:15 am (UTC) (Link)

One of my friends uncle would get rid of them by inviting them in and going and getting the bible, the torah, the quoran and the book of mormon and placing them on the table, then asking the Jehovah's Witness if there was anything he could help them with.

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[info]panteraonca

2009-10-04 09:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

Jehovah's Witnesses.

...

*shudder*

Scuse me, Imma go have flashbacks now. O_o

[info]candyxpanties

2009-10-04 09:33 pm (UTC) (Link)

I once opened the door on a Sunday morning at 6 AM to find two JW's who refused to let me shut the door by putting their foot in the frame. :| I feel you.

Also, is your icon nickable, OP? I love it.

[info]the_ether

2009-10-04 10:31 pm (UTC) (Link)

They always come when I'm hungover. Um, pardon me, I'm secure in my beliefs and I'm only halfway through my post-binge-drinking noodles. Go Away! I never open the screen door to them so they can't get their foot in it :)

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[info]rollkitty

2009-10-04 11:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

What's sucky here is not the message itself, it's the relentless and pushy way the customer went about administering it. However, when it comes to religious beliefs, if you're talking to a person who a) thinks their system is 100% right and b) believes that they may have a chance of ~saving you from damnation~ by pushing those beliefs on you as hard as they can, you're in for the long haul.

[info]onna_kenkaku

2009-10-04 11:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

The roughest part is that they honestly think they're doing good. But it somehow skips the brain that pinning someone in a corner and talking at them when they're a worker for the store (in any capacity) is inappropriate and rude. Time and place for everything.

[info]mikadosok

2009-10-04 11:28 pm (UTC) (Link)

Hmmm....last time JW's came to my door, I told them...'you can have half an hour to talk about your religion...then I get half an hour to talk about mine, thing being, you can't leave until I'm finished'

Never had one stick around...wonder why

[info]randomhats

2009-10-05 01:04 am (UTC) (Link)

That's pretty much what I do. But a friend of mine tells me this is rude. I'm not sure why I have to listen to them tell me about God and creationism but I can't tell them about Darwin and evolution? Fair is fair right??

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[info]vonlisbon

2009-10-04 11:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

I have never once had a JW come up to me/my door/leave books/etc. I know we have a JW population around here, too. I've seen them on their bicycles. I guess they just don't come into my neighborhood *shrug*

[info]fleur_de_mort

2009-10-05 01:51 am (UTC) (Link)

I thought the Mormons were the ones on the bikes?

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[info]there_she_went

2009-10-05 12:48 am (UTC) (Link)

I wonder if it's my "fuck off" door mat that keeps them away or if it's my horns...

[info]jorockz

2009-10-05 02:18 am (UTC) (Link)

Man, we live in a cul-de-sac of about 6 houses-all students. This year JW just keep coming!!! 1st time, they cornered my shy(christian) flatmate who they thought was 13 and made her pray with them. 2nd time, my flatmates hid in the bathroom and made me, the atheist, answer the door. Once informed of my atheism JW proceeded to ask me about why I made that choice and other annoying questions before I told them to get off my stairs. 3rd time they were delivering end of the world brochures. Came back a week later to which I asked why they were coming SO much. Was informed they have assigned areas and once they have been everywhere, start again. To which I informed them that the same people would be living here for a long time, and we were not interested. And if they kept coming around, esp at 7am on Saturday, I would start going to their houses at 2am on Fridays and start preaching atheism at them. Cause if they have the rigt to shove their religion down my throat, I have the right to shove my beliefs right back at them right?

Shockingly, though they have been back and knocked on my neighbours doors, never knocked on ours again. What a shame.

Only now I realised i should have just told them the truth- in our flat is a buddhist, a hindu, a presbytarian, a catholic and a atheist-might have truly scared them off!!

[info]invaderscythe

2009-10-05 04:03 am (UTC) (Link)

I actually work with a JW and she's the nicest woman ever. I've never heard her once spoke of God or anything except for she was going home to read the Bible before she went to sleep. I just nodded and said cool. I'm Wiccan and I really don't like to tell people unless they truly ask because it makes everyone all batshit crazy and make fun of me (we call telling people your religion 'coming out of the broom closet' like coming out of the closet if you're homosexual).

[info]dark_yami_girl

2009-10-05 07:21 am (UTC) (Link)

All this discussion makes me wonder if people of non-Christian/Catholic/JW/etc religions wander around offering to discuss their religion with curious strangers.

As long as they don't condemn me or shove their in my face, I wouldn't mind hearing them out... *Head scratch*

[info]beeblebear

2009-10-05 08:26 am (UTC) (Link)

2 best ways of dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses that I have seen/heard of.

While I was staying at a friend's house, the JWs knocked at the door at about 9am, forcing me to get out of bed. I put on a dressing gown and answered the door. While I was being generically polite to them, my friend - who is also male - finally came to the door from his (separate) bedroom. He was also in just a dressing gown. He told them we were busy and could they come back later? They didn't come back.


Another friend was busy doing some cooking that involved a little butchery of raw meat when the knock at the door came. He answered the door wearing his blood smeared plastic apron, and while being generically polite to them, one of his friends came up and said, "Master, the goats are getting restless, we must continue..." At which point the JWs left. Half an hour later, the police arrived.

[info]mharbourgirl

2009-10-05 11:00 am (UTC) (Link)

You owe me a monitor cleaning, hun. *snerk*

An old co-worker of mine used to answer the door buck nekkid with his 8-foot snake draped around his shoulders. Worked pretty well. :)

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[info]faerie_speak

2009-10-05 02:33 pm (UTC) (Link)

I want to go up to a random person and ask if they've "heard the word of Jenova today?" And then let them know that they'd still die-- but faster!
/CG Cats reference

[info]xpiscesgrl227x

2009-10-05 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

"Have you accepted Jesus into your life?"

-Yeah, that's my brother's name. Why do you ask?

[info]xpiscesgrl227x

2009-10-05 03:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

The last time a JW came to my parents' house, my dad was fixing his truck in the driveway, and my dog was laying beside him. My dog didn't like strangers and pulled my dad out from under the truck, snarling and barking. And the JW asked if the dog was friendly. SURE! Of course he is! Pay no attention to his large teeth and hair standing on end!

My dad told the guy he didn't know how much longer he could hold my dog. We haven't had any JWs since.

[info]phyr_nyt

2009-10-05 04:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

i heard that if you tell them you had a blood or kindy transplay that'll keep them away. something about them not adding or removing things from their body?

also if you tell them that your family was the equivalent of being excommunicated.

[info]chale

2009-10-05 05:38 pm (UTC) (Link)

Another method is to get out a bible and tell them you'd like to tell THEM about Jesus. (Since their view of Jesus does not match up with mainstream christianity's.) Not the method for everyone, of course, but it does work. LOL. I did that the last time I had one come to my door and they haven't been back. :oP

Or you could tell them about the Gospel of Doctor Who! "He's my Time Lord AND Savior!" HEE!

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[info]soozenw

2009-10-05 06:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

Just so you know--Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in the soul as a separate entity, nor do they ask about whether or not you accept Jesus as a savior. If she ever claimed to be a JW, she was lying.

[info]starawings

2009-10-05 06:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

i had a couple of Jehova's witnesses come by my door last week! I just got out of teh shower so my hair was everywhere and I didn't wear my glasses So I just sort of Glared at them... they forced some pamphlets on me...
Oh my roommate just told me a great story about Jehova's witnesses, once they came to his mum's house and he just came down, he was dresses as a goth as he was going to a party later that night, they yelled at him that he was going to hell and all that stuff!

I'd personally just glare and give the woman the evil eye...that works really well for me cause i'm over 6 feet tall...

[info]soozenw

2009-10-05 06:29 pm (UTC) (Link)

JWs don't believe in Hell.

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